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WELCOME TO OBED-TEACH:
"Canine Obedience Instructors' Discussion List"
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WHAT IS OBED-TEACH:
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Obed-Teach is an e-mail discussion list for canine obedience
instructors at all levels, from those who instruct household manners
classes, to those who teach puppy socialization classes, to those
who instruct competition classes and private lessors, to those who
offer nationally and internationally recognized seminars and camps.
The purpose of this discussion forum is to help us all become better
instructors, through communication and idea exchange with others.
WHAT NOT TO DO ON THIS LIST:
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1. You may not retransmit any posts from obed-teach without the
explicit permission of the original poster. Similarly, you may not
reflect or remail the digests from this list to other sites without
the explicit permission from each of the posters AND the list
administrator.
2. Don't flame each other. Please understand that a "flame" is
not just any remark expressing disagreement with someone else's
ideas; a "flame" is a personal insult with no logical connection to
the issue at hand. So, for example, the following statements would
count as inappropriate "flames":
"Anyone still teaching the Ear Pinch should be arrested,"
or "Those cookie-pushers don't really know how to train dogs,"
..because they are insulting and inflammatory (thus, "flames")
without being enlightening or informative.
But, "Many dogs who are not ear pinched can retrieve just fine,"
or, "I believe that a dog must be ear pinched to be reliable."
..are not "flames," and are acceptable because, while they are
indeed expressions of opinion, they address the issue at hand and
are not simply attacks on individuals who hold differing views from
one's own.
3. This forum is not the place for discussions about animal rights,
the ethics of maintaining pets, generalized environmental causes not
directly bearing on dog obedience instruction, pros and cons of
vegetarianism, hunting, logging or any similarly tangential topics.
Discussions of the merits of PETA and similar organizations are not
appropriate on obed-teach unless they have a direct impact upon
instructors and our classes (for example, if your class in the park
was being video-taped by people wearing PETA jackets, or if an
animal rights group was picketing your obedience instructing
facility, that might be relevant to bring up on this forum).
4. You shouldn't post anything blatantly commercial, or plug your
own books, videos, or seminars. Notices of upcoming seminars,
camps, books, clinics, conferences and videos, or reviews of camps,
books, videos, etc. which are related to obedience instruction may
be posted to obed-teach by anyone who does not have a financial
interest in the marketing of the item/event.
If you have a financial interest in a product or event which you
think would benefit others here, you may announce its availability
on obed-announce but not on obed-teach.
5. Comments directed at a particular person (e.g., "Right on, Rhoda.
Good point," or "Thanks for the info," or "What a horrendous
experience that must have been. I don't know why people do such
things," or "Hi, Jane, I'm glad to see you've joined the list.
Write to me," etc.) are private communications, and should be sent
PRIVATELY, NOT to OBED-TEACH.
6. Don't do anything which would violate your agreement with your
Internet service provider or (if you receive obed-teach at work)
which would violate your employer's rules. Listowners do not
like hearing from disgruntled bosses demanding to know "Just what is
this 'obed-teach' e-mail list anyway, and how is it related to
Industrial Engineering?" ('Nuff said)
NETIQUETTE:
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Etiquette is how you should behave in the real world; "netiquette"
is how you should behave in the virtual one. The following aren't
rules, but guidelines which should help make everyone in the
electronic universe just a little bit happier.
* DO send replies to the whole list when they contain information or tips
or even opinions from which all might benefit!
* But be VERY CAREFUL not to inadvertently send personal messages intended
for a single individual to the whole list.
* Do include your "call name" and your e-mail address at the bottom of your
posts, in case someone does wish to respond privately to your remarks.
Do this even if your software automatically puts this info in a "header"
because some other people's software automatically strips off headers, so
they don't see your name and e-mail address at the top.
* Try to keep your signature files brief; several lines long might be fine,
BUT EXTENDED ARTWORK, PHILOSOPHICAL SAYINGS, AND RESUMES SHOULD BE
TRIMMED. ASCII art (pictures) in .signature files will not always
appear as it was originally intended, because of different
systems' formatting capabilities and conventions. Therefore, it
should be omitted.
* Try to use informative subject lines in your posts. For example,
"Puppy Class" is more informative as a subject header than
"Question" or "I Need Advice" or "New Idea" would be.
* If you are replying to a previous post, don't include the full
text of the original letter. Include only pertinent information, or
summarize. On the other extreme, please don't reply to a previous
post without *at least* briefly summarizing the original question or
discussion.
* Think carefully about what you are posting, since you never know who
might be reading your words. The person you call an idiot
may well subscribe to this forum, or have a student who does.
* Seminars, training methods, books, and anything else that is
geared toward topics on this list are encouraged to be reviewed. If
you have negative feedback, please keep the comments based on the
methods, ideas, etc and not on the author or person responsible for
the product. E.g., Don't say, "So-and-so is an abusive trainer."
Preferable would be: "I didn't like so-and-so's method of teaching
<whatever> because s/he relied too much on compulsion and too
little on positive reinforcement for my taste."
* PLEASE let the listowner know if you intend to mention this list
in a published article in a club newsletter or other publication. The
reason is because such "mentions" frequently lead to a large increase in
the number of subscription requests (which will make more work for the
listowner), especially if the publication where the "mention" appears is
widely distributed. Since this list has a maximum of 400 subscribers,
and is by application only, it will help us deal with administrative
workload better if we know in advance when to expect a large influx of
subscription requests.
OTHER SOURCES OF INFORMATION:
Canine Obedience Announcements
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A list devoted to obedience announcements, seminars, trials, etc. is also
run from reepicheep. One can join this list by Emailing to:
listserver@reepicheep.gcn.uoknor.edu
the command
SUB OBED-ANNOUNCE Your Name
where you insert your real full name (NOT your email address).
Canine topics in general
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Several Usenet Newsgroup, rec.pets.dogs.*, are available at any of the
thousands of sites worldwide which have access to Usenet News.
Information about how to subscribe will depend on specific features
of your particular computer installation. Check with your system
personnel for information about subscribing to Usenet Newsgroups.
Individual breed lists and many other canine-related lists are housed on
various machines all over the world. The best up-to-date summary of these
is maintained by Cindy Tittle Moore and publically accessible.
The list of all canine lists (including breed lists) can be accessed as
follows:
ftp rtfm.mit.edu, file pub/usenet/news.answers/dogs-faq/email-lists
or
email to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu, no/any subject line and in the body:
send usenet/news.answers/dogs-faq/email-lists
The second option may take several hours to get a reply. I tried both of
these and they do work.
ADDRESSES ASSOCIATED WITH OBED-TEACH:
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Before sending a post, make sure that you are using the correct address.
There are five addresses associated with the OBED-TEACH list.
1. listserver@reepicheep.gcn.uoknor.edu
This address should be used to handle subscriptions (getting on and leaving
the list) and will automatically process well known list parameters sent to
it.
2. obed-teach@reepicheep.gcn.uoknor.edu
This address should be used to send letters that you want distributed to
all readers of the list. Don't use this address to request to be removed
from the list. Use the listserver address when you want to change list
options or when you want to be removed from the list.
3. obedreq@reepicheep.gcn.uoknor.edu
This address is Mike Richman's personal mailbox. You can submit any
questions or problems that you need addressed by Mike (the list
manager) personally.
4. rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu
This is the address of the OBED-TEACH listowner, Ruth Ginzberg,
(sometimes called the list administrator), and should be used for
personal assistance with subscription and delivery problems.
5. arbitration@reepicheep.gcn.uoknor.edu
This is the alias for the arbitration committee. If you have a
gripe about list policy you would like answered, or would like
clarification of a policy, use this address. If you feel that
someone is flaming you or stifling you, email your complaint to this
address. It might take a day or two for the members to all confer
on your question and get back to you.
Thank you for your cooperation and your participation in obed-teach.
Please post an introduction telling the other subscribers a bit
about yourself.
To subscribe to OBED-TEACH you will need to send a paragraph to the list
administrator indicating that you are an obedience instructor, what club(s)
you instruct with and other relevant information.
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